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Old 07-05-2009, 10:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a big problem with this.

I don't have 'anything to hide', the usual argument of the pro-ID card lobby.

But I have an issue of putting all my personally identifiable data in one place, on a card that can easily be forged or lost.

Pray tell, how exactly will ID cards actually prevent terrorism?
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I have a big problem with this.

I don't have 'anything to hide', the usual argument of the pro-ID card lobby.

But I have an issue of putting all my personally identifiable data in one place, on a card that can easily be forged or lost.

Pray tell, how exactly will ID cards actually prevent terrorism?


They won't...no way - by the time the cards arrive here in the UK, Mr. Terrorist would have found much more creative and innovative ways of inflicting mass terror and panic. Introducing a small plastic card just presents another opportunity for the government to lose our precious data.
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They won't...no way - by the time the cards arrive here in the UK, Mr. Terrorist would have found much more creative and innovative ways of inflicting mass terror and panic. Introducing a small plastic card just presents another opportunity for the government to lose our precious data.

I fail to see the cynic in this point
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ID cards are stupid, and the government's pursuit of this policy shows just how foolish they are.

Most terrorists in recent attacks actually reside or were even born in the country they target. An ID card won't exactly stop that.

It won't stop employers hiring illegal immigrants - those that ignore current ID rules won't be bothered about a card.

It won't prevent fraud, in fact I think it will assist it. At best it will reduce a bit of administration for organisations like banks. Any technology they install in the cards will very quickly be targeted and cloned by fraudsters - all security measures always are.

If the police want to know my name and address they can just ask to see my driving licence.

The cost is insane, both of the project itself and to cost to the individual to acquire a card. And as with all schemes like this, it will rise.

The only benefit I can see to an ID card is if you haven't got an ice scraper and your windscreen needs clearing.
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Is there any sane person that likes the idea of them?
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Climbdown on ID cards

What a complete and utter waste. We're moving from "they're to combat ID fraud and terrorism" to "they're voluntary" when the initial testing groups say they don't want them.

Complete and utter waste of money.
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I have a big problem with this.

Pray tell, how exactly will ID cards actually prevent terrorism?
It won't. Terrorists will just blow up their ID card.
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Actually, has anyone stopped to consider that all the UK-based terrorirst attacks going back to the IRA days have ben perpetrated by people who could quite legitimately hold genuine UK ID Cards?

Thought not...
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Actually, has anyone stopped to consider that all the UK-based terrorirst attacks going back to the IRA days have ben perpetrated by people who could quite legitimately hold genuine UK ID Cards?

Thought not...
Yeah, I think Beefy said that earlier
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