Do Agencies or Umbrella Companies Pay for Paternity Leave?

[The SMG]

This is one that has often bothered me and I’m not just asking cause Mrs. SMG is bending my ear again. Does anyone actually know?

G

[dodgy_Dave]

Originally Posted by The SMG

This is one that has often bothered me and I’m not just asking cause Mrs. SMG is bending my ear again. Does anyone actually know?

G

I can't say about Umbrella Companies but we definitely do pay paternity if the contractor has been working through us for more than a certain period of time (I think it's 26 weeks or something similar).

[The SMG]

Originally Posted by dodgy_Dave

I can't say about Umbrella Companies but we definitely do pay paternity if the contractor has been working through us for more than a certain period of time (I think it's 26 weeks or something similar).

interesting....I wonder about Umbrellas, does anyone know?

G

[CrazyMoose]

Originally Posted by The SMG

interesting....I wonder about Umbrellas, does anyone know?

G

Yes they do SMG. You know how it works - since they act as employer to Mr. Contractor, they are obligated to honour a paternity request provided Mr. contractor has been employed for a certain period of time prior to that request. I think statutory Paternity Pay, regardless of whether an agency or umbrella pays it, is fairly insignificant on the grand scheme of things. It’s somewhere in the region of £125 per week.

[Howzat]

Originally Posted by CrazyMoose

Yes they do SMG. You know how it works - since they act as employer to Mr. Contractor, they are obligated to honour a paternity request provided Mr. contractor has been employed for a certain period of time prior to that request. I think statutory Paternity Pay, regardless of whether an agency or umbrella pays it, is fairly insignificant on the grand scheme of things. It’s somewhere in the region of £125 per week.

Correct. A friend of mine received 2 weeks paternity from his umbrella. Obviously a mere £125 per week didn't exactly break the bank but it was a welcome addition to the war chest all the same....

[hugo@gabem]

Originally Posted by CrazyMoose

Yes they do SMG. You know how it works - since they act as employer to Mr. Contractor, they are obligated to honour a paternity request provided Mr. contractor has been employed for a certain period of time prior to that request. I think statutory Paternity Pay, regardless of whether an agency or umbrella pays it, is fairly insignificant on the grand scheme of things. It’s somewhere in the region of £125 per week.

CrazyMoose is absolutely right, I have it here that SPP comes in at "£123.06 or 90% of average weekly earnings whichever is less".

92% of SPP or SMP is reclaimed from the government anyway, so it's a neglegible cost really (a few years back employers used to be able to claim back over 100% if you can believe that).

If they're doing it right, an umbrella company isn't "acting" as your employer, they are your employer so you're entitled to all the statutory rights of an employee. Some of which you pay yourself out of your profit related pay (i.e. holidays) and some the umbrella has to cover (i.e. ssp, smp, spp).

Sorry to weigh in with something so heavy on the figures.

[CrazyMoose]

Originally Posted by hugo@gabem

CrazyMoose is absolutely right, I have it here that SPP comes in at "£123.06 or 90% of average weekly earnings whichever is less".

92% of SPP or SMP is reclaimed from the government anyway, so it's a neglegible cost really (a few years back employers used to be able to claim back over 100% if you can believe that).

If they're doing it right, an umbrella company isn't "acting" as your employer, they are your employer so you're entitled to all the statutory rights of an employee. Some of which you pay yourself out of your profit related pay (i.e. holidays) and some the umbrella has to cover (i.e. ssp, smp, spp).

Sorry to weigh in with something so heavy on the figures.

no problem, Hugo - feel free to weigh in again. I particularly liked the opening line

[Rob Crossland]

I concur with Hugo - we also pay Stat Adoption Pay and anything pretty much that starts with a Statutory... Probably only get this from the properly constituted Umbrella's though - many will shy away or say no - if that's the case you have a problem.

[Azeey]

What's the chapter and verse of what you can claim if you're a director of your own ltd?