Agency Workers Directive - Page 2

bez · 03-07-2009, 01:14 AM

Is there a minimum joining age for the PCG?

Malvolio · 03-07-2009, 10:29 AM

No.

Beefy198 · 03-07-2009, 10:38 AM

Malvolio: Would you consider giving your child a name that spelt out PCG?

Pistachio · 03-07-2009, 01:12 PM

And give them a cape?

ShortStraw · 06-07-2009, 02:10 PM

I've started hearing stuff about this, one of those things where you see it mentioned one day and kinda gloss over it, not thinking it's relevant to you.

Then you see it mentioned again, and again, and again, and again.

Read up on it the other day and holy christ it's worrying. Typical ill thought out directive that aims to create a blanket solution in an area where one isn't appropriate. Working in HR I see that sort of thing all the time.

JeffreyC · 06-07-2009, 05:56 PM

It's nice for once to have some proposed legislation that doesn't affect umbrella companies

Azeey · 07-07-2009, 11:50 AM

It's annoying. One of the government's great "one size fits all" approach to dealing with issues. When will they learn that our sector is not black and white?

The sooner we get rid of them the better - for everyone.

Rob Crossland · 08-07-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffreyC

It's nice for once to have some proposed legislation that doesn't affect umbrella companies

You sure?

JeffreyC · 08-07-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Crossland

You sure?

How will it affect us? They are already employees with full employee rights (unless you treat yours any different)

Rob Crossland · 08-07-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffreyC

How will it affect us? They are already employees with full employee rights (unless you treat yours any different)

AWD is not only about rights - after 12 weeks (as currently drafted) a contractor (excludes Ltd Co contractor) has to be compared with a permie equivalent and a number of terms adjusted (potentially). Let's imagine a support analyst on £13 per hour - after 12 weeks he/she could have salary adjusted and benefits changed. Imagine that the perm equivalent receives £15 per hour and a pension benefit.. who will fund that difference?

The draft also suggests that a break in contract (to get around the 12 week issue) would need to be 6 weeks and that paying in between assignments would have to be at least 80% of gross.

Expenses - if a contractor moves to a post 12 week environment - I can see HMRC pushing on validity of expenses on a deemed employment basis.

APSCo have suggested a three times Min Wage carve out should be used (£17 per hour) as an exemption but that would still catch a large number of Umbrella Contractors imo.

Get lobbying!